diff --git a/NOSTR.md b/NOSTR.md
index 62e438d30d..bbde09d425 100644
--- a/NOSTR.md
+++ b/NOSTR.md
@@ -152,7 +152,9 @@ out unless they ask for it:
   combine with OR, so `#t:["system", <label>]` does not mean "a system
   channel with this label".
 
-Push and kind:44100/44101 membership notifications skip system channels.
+Push notifications skip system channels. Their kind:44100/44101
+membership notifications carry `["t","system"]`, and the relay returns those
+only to a filter with `#t:["system"]` (see NIP-CL).
 
 Events are stored **channel-scoped** so access control applies — private channel member lists are
 only visible to members. Discover groups via historical REQ:
@@ -178,6 +180,9 @@ The relay emits relay-signed notifications when members are added or removed:
 | **44100** | Member added | `p` = target pubkey, `h` = channel UUID | Community-global |
 | **44101** | Member removed | `p` = target pubkey, `h` = channel UUID | Community-global |
 
+A notice about a system channel also has `t` = `system`. Only a filter with
+`#t:["system"]` returns it (NIP-CL).
+
 Stored community-globally (`channel_id = None` inside the connected community) so agents and clients can subscribe without knowing channel
 UUIDs in advance. Client-submitted kind:44100/44101 events are rejected — only the relay keypair
 may sign these.
diff --git a/crates/buzz-core/src/filter.rs b/crates/buzz-core/src/filter.rs
index 32e3a7ad16..92a4e4ccbc 100644
--- a/crates/buzz-core/src/filter.rs
+++ b/crates/buzz-core/src/filter.rs
@@ -32,7 +32,47 @@ pub fn reader_authorized_for_event(event: &nostr::Event, reader_pubkey_hex: &str
         .any(|t| t.content() == Some(reader_pubkey_hex))
 }
 
+/// The tag that marks a kind:44100/44101 membership notice about a system
+/// channel (NIP-CL): `["t", "system"]`. Only the relay signs these kinds, and
+/// it adds the tag only when the channel is a system channel.
+pub const SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG: [&str; 2] = ["t", "system"];
+
+/// The kinds that [`SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG`] can mark.
+pub const SYSTEM_NOTICE_KINDS: [u32; 2] = [
+    crate::kind::KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION,
+    crate::kind::KIND_MEMBER_REMOVED_NOTIFICATION,
+];
+
+/// Whether `event` is a membership notice about a system channel.
+///
+/// Such a notice is hidden by default: it matches only a filter that asks
+/// for it ([`filter_asks_for_system_notices`]). Clients that do not know
+/// system channels never ask, so they never see one, on any read or live
+/// path that matches through [`filters_match`] or applies the same rule in
+/// SQL (`EventQuery::include_system_notices`, which defaults to off).
+pub fn is_system_notice(event: &nostr::Event) -> bool {
+    SYSTEM_NOTICE_KINDS.contains(&crate::kind::event_kind_u32(event))
+        && event.tags.iter().any(|tag| {
+            let tag = tag.as_slice();
+            tag.first().map(String::as_str) == Some(SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG[0])
+                && tag.get(1).map(String::as_str) == Some(SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG[1])
+        })
+}
+
+/// Whether `filter` asks for system-channel membership notices: its `#t`
+/// values include `"system"`.
+pub fn filter_asks_for_system_notices(filter: &Filter) -> bool {
+    filter
+        .generic_tags
+        .get(&nostr::SingleLetterTag::lowercase(nostr::Alphabet::T))
+        .is_some_and(|values| values.iter().any(|value| value == SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG[1]))
+}
+
 fn filter_match_one(f: &Filter, ev: &StoredEvent) -> bool {
+    if is_system_notice(&ev.event) && !filter_asks_for_system_notices(f) {
+        return false;
+    }
+
     if let Some(kinds) = &f.kinds {
         if !kinds.contains(&ev.event.kind) {
             return false;
@@ -119,6 +159,58 @@ mod tests {
         StoredEvent::with_received_at(event, Utc::now(), None, true)
     }
 
+    #[test]
+    fn a_system_notice_matches_only_a_filter_that_asks() {
+        let relay = Keys::generate();
+        let member = Keys::generate().public_key();
+        let notice = |kind: u32, system: bool| {
+            let mut tags = vec![
+                Tag::parse(["p", &member.to_hex()]).unwrap(),
+                Tag::parse(["h", "c"]).unwrap(),
+            ];
+            if system {
+                tags.push(Tag::parse(SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG).unwrap());
+            }
+            let event = EventBuilder::new(Kind::Custom(kind as u16), "")
+                .tags(tags)
+                .sign_with_keys(&relay)
+                .expect("sign");
+            StoredEvent::with_received_at(event, Utc::now(), None, true)
+        };
+        let filter = |json: serde_json::Value| -> Filter { serde_json::from_value(json).unwrap() };
+        let p = member.to_hex();
+        let old = [
+            filter(serde_json::json!({"kinds": [44100, 44101], "#p": [p]})),
+            filter(serde_json::json!({"#p": [p]})),
+            filter(serde_json::json!({})),
+            filter(serde_json::json!({"#t": ["other"]})),
+        ];
+        let asks = [
+            filter(serde_json::json!({"kinds": [44100, 44101], "#p": [p], "#t": ["system"]})),
+            filter(serde_json::json!({"#t": ["other", "system"]})),
+        ];
+        for kind in SYSTEM_NOTICE_KINDS {
+            let system = notice(kind, true);
+            assert!(is_system_notice(&system.event));
+            for f in &old {
+                assert!(!filters_match(std::slice::from_ref(f), &system), "{f:?}");
+            }
+            for f in &asks {
+                assert!(filters_match(std::slice::from_ref(f), &system), "{f:?}");
+            }
+            // An ordinary notice is unchanged: old filters see it, and the
+            // asking filter's `#t` does not match it.
+            let ordinary = notice(kind, false);
+            assert!(!is_system_notice(&ordinary.event));
+            assert!(filters_match(&old[..1], &ordinary));
+            assert!(!filters_match(&asks[..1], &ordinary));
+        }
+        // The tag hides nothing on other kinds.
+        let other = notice(44200, true);
+        assert!(!is_system_notice(&other.event));
+        assert!(filters_match(&old[2..3], &other));
+    }
+
     #[test]
     fn kind_author_since_until_tag_matching() {
         let keys = Keys::generate();
diff --git a/crates/buzz-db/src/store/event.rs b/crates/buzz-db/src/store/event.rs
index 209f09e573..51e6d833aa 100644
--- a/crates/buzz-db/src/store/event.rs
+++ b/crates/buzz-db/src/store/event.rs
@@ -125,6 +125,12 @@ pub struct EventQuery {
     /// containment alone would also admit decoys like `["x","shared","true"]`.
     /// `event_visible_to_reader` remains the post-filter.
     pub shared_gated_reader: Option<Vec<u8>>,
+    /// Whether results may include membership notices about system channels
+    /// ([`buzz_core::filter::is_system_notice`]). Off by default, so a read
+    /// path that does not ask never returns one (NIP-CL). Set it only for a
+    /// filter that asks for them
+    /// ([`buzz_core::filter::filter_asks_for_system_notices`]).
+    pub include_system_notices: bool,
 }
 
 impl EventQuery {
@@ -158,6 +164,7 @@ impl EventQuery {
             channel_ids_include_global: true,
             max_limit: None,
             shared_gated_reader: None,
+            include_system_notices: false,
         }
     }
 }
@@ -655,6 +662,7 @@ fn build_query_events_sql(q: &EventQuery) -> QueryBuilder<sqlx::Postgres> {
         let table = if q.p_tag_hex.is_some() { "e" } else { "events" };
         qb.push(format!(" AND NOT ({table}.kind = 45010 AND NOT EXISTS (SELECT 1 FROM artifact_heads ah WHERE ah.community_id={table}.community_id AND ah.event_id={table}.id))"));
     }
+    push_system_notice_exclusion(&mut qb, col_prefix, q);
 
     if let Some(ch) = q.channel_id {
         qb.push(format!(" AND {col_prefix}channel_id = "))
@@ -912,6 +920,37 @@ fn push_tag_value_filters(
     }
 }
 
+/// Hide membership notices about system channels unless the query asks for
+/// them (NIP-CL): `AND NOT (kind IN (44100, 44101) AND <exact ["t","system"]>)`.
+/// The same rule as [`buzz_core::filter::is_system_notice`] in `filters_match`,
+/// pushed before `LIMIT` so hidden rows cannot take page slots. Skipped when
+/// the query's kinds cannot match a notice.
+fn push_system_notice_exclusion(
+    qb: &mut QueryBuilder<sqlx::Postgres>,
+    col_prefix: &str,
+    q: &EventQuery,
+) {
+    use buzz_core::filter::{SYSTEM_NOTICE_KINDS, SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG};
+    if q.include_system_notices {
+        return;
+    }
+    if let Some(kinds) = q.kinds.as_deref() {
+        if !kinds
+            .iter()
+            .any(|kind| SYSTEM_NOTICE_KINDS.contains(&(*kind as u32)))
+        {
+            return;
+        }
+    }
+    let [added, removed] = SYSTEM_NOTICE_KINDS;
+    let [name, value] = SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG;
+    qb.push(format!(
+        " AND NOT ({col_prefix}kind IN ({added}, {removed}) AND "
+    ));
+    push_exact_tag_match(qb, col_prefix, name, &[value.to_owned()]);
+    qb.push(")");
+}
+
 /// Match `#d` on artifact rows before `LIMIT` while leaving other kinds to the
 /// caller's post-filter: `(kind NOT IN (artifact kinds) OR <exact d match>)`.
 fn push_artifact_d_tag_predicate(
@@ -1030,6 +1069,7 @@ pub(crate) async fn count_events_on(conn: &mut sqlx::PgConnection, q: &EventQuer
         let table = if q.p_tag_hex.is_some() { "e" } else { "events" };
         qb.push(format!(" AND NOT ({table}.kind = 45010 AND NOT EXISTS (SELECT 1 FROM artifact_heads ah WHERE ah.community_id={table}.community_id AND ah.event_id={table}.id))"));
     }
+    push_system_notice_exclusion(&mut qb, col_prefix, q);
 
     if let Some(ch) = q.channel_id {
         qb.push(format!(" AND {col_prefix}channel_id = "))
diff --git a/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/req.rs b/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/req.rs
index 3180f227e3..ae730a0339 100644
--- a/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/req.rs
+++ b/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/req.rs
@@ -1253,9 +1253,24 @@ fn filter_to_query_params(
         .filter(|values| !values.is_empty())
         .map(|values| values.iter().map(|v| v.to_string()).collect());
 
-    let tag_values = group_state_tag_values(filter);
+    let mut tag_values = group_state_tag_values(filter);
+    // A filter that asks for system-channel membership notices (`#t` has
+    // "system") may read them; match its `#t` in SQL so ordinary notices do
+    // not take its page slots. Every other filter keeps the default, which
+    // hides them (NIP-CL).
+    let include_system_notices = buzz_core::filter::filter_asks_for_system_notices(filter);
+    if include_system_notices && !tag_values.iter().any(|(name, _)| name == "t") {
+        let t = nostr::SingleLetterTag::lowercase(nostr::Alphabet::T);
+        if let Some(values) = filter.generic_tags.get(&t) {
+            tag_values.push((
+                t.to_string(),
+                values.iter().map(|value| value.to_string()).collect(),
+            ));
+        }
+    }
 
     EventQuery {
+        include_system_notices,
         channel_id,
         kinds,
         pubkey,
diff --git a/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/side_effects.rs b/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/side_effects.rs
index 38d035910b..c0e6f08eb0 100644
--- a/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/side_effects.rs
+++ b/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/side_effects.rs
@@ -1059,8 +1059,11 @@ pub fn emit_live_thread_summary(
 
 /// Emit a relay-signed membership notification event stored globally (channel_id = None).
 ///
-/// kind:44100 = member added, kind:44101 = member removed. System channels
-/// emit none.
+/// kind:44100 = member added, kind:44101 = member removed. A notice about a
+/// system channel carries `["t","system"]` (NIP-CL). This is the only place
+/// that checks the channel type for notices: every read and live path hides a
+/// tagged notice unless the filter asks for it (`buzz_core::filter`), so
+/// clients that do not know system channels never see one.
 /// The p tag addresses the target pubkey; the h tag carries the channel UUID as metadata.
 /// Stored with channel_id = None so global subscribers receive it via slow-path fan-out.
 pub async fn emit_membership_notification(
@@ -1071,16 +1074,11 @@ pub async fn emit_membership_notification(
     actor_pubkey: &[u8],
     notification_kind: u32,
 ) -> anyhow::Result<()> {
-    // A system channel is left out of clients' channel lists, so it sends no
-    // membership notifications: a client that receives one would show it.
-    if !state
+    let system = !state
         .db
         .system_channel_ids_among(tenant.community(), &[channel_id])
         .await?
-        .is_empty()
-    {
-        return Ok(());
-    }
+        .is_empty();
     let target_hex = hex::encode(target_pubkey);
     let actor_hex = hex::encode(actor_pubkey);
     let channel_id_str = channel_id.to_string();
@@ -1107,8 +1105,15 @@ pub async fn emit_membership_notification(
     })
     .to_string();
 
+    let mut tags = vec![p_tag, h_tag];
+    if system {
+        tags.push(
+            Tag::parse(buzz_core::filter::SYSTEM_NOTICE_TAG)
+                .map_err(|e| anyhow::anyhow!("failed to build system tag: {e}"))?,
+        );
+    }
     let event = EventBuilder::new(Kind::Custom(notification_kind as u16), content)
-        .tags([p_tag, h_tag])
+        .tags(tags)
         .sign_with_keys(&state.relay_keypair)
         .map_err(|e| anyhow::anyhow!("failed to sign membership notification: {e}"))?;
 
diff --git a/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/system_channel_postgres_tests.rs b/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/system_channel_postgres_tests.rs
index d99ddb748e..1ac8084f45 100644
--- a/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/system_channel_postgres_tests.rs
+++ b/crates/buzz-relay/src/handlers/system_channel_postgres_tests.rs
@@ -175,7 +175,7 @@ fn bridge_count(body: Option<Value>) -> u64 {
     })
 }
 
-fn sorted(mut ids: Vec<String>) -> Vec<String> {
+fn sorted<T: Ord>(mut ids: Vec<T>) -> Vec<T> {
     ids.sort();
     ids
 }
@@ -428,17 +428,60 @@ async fn named_channels_missing_from_the_cache_are_confirmed_together() {
     assert!(readable_system.is_empty());
 }
 
-/// Adding a member to a system channel sends no kind:44100 notification,
-/// which an existing client would show as a new channel. An ordinary
-/// channel still sends one, so the check is not vacuous.
-/// Mutation: drop the system check in `emit_membership_notification` → RED.
+/// A system channel's membership notices are stored kind:44100/44101 with
+/// `["t","system"]`, and only a filter that asks with `#t:["system"]` sees
+/// them. Every other filter, on every path, sees only the ordinary channel's
+/// notice, as it does today: live fan-out, REQ history, COUNT, and the HTTP
+/// bridge.
+/// Mutation: drop the tag in `emit_membership_notification` → RED (the
+/// opt-in filter finds nothing, and old filters see the system channel);
+/// drop the `is_system_notice` check in `filters_match` → RED (live and
+/// post-filtered reads show it); drop `push_system_notice_exclusion` → RED
+/// (COUNT counts it).
 #[tokio::test]
 #[ignore = "requires Postgres and Redis"]
-async fn system_channels_send_no_membership_notifications() {
+async fn system_channel_notices_reach_only_filters_that_ask() {
+    use buzz_core::kind::{KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION, KIND_MEMBER_REMOVED_NOTIFICATION};
     let f = fixture().await;
     let owner = Keys::generate();
     let member = Keys::generate();
     let member_hex = member.public_key().to_hex();
+    let kinds = [
+        KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION,
+        KIND_MEMBER_REMOVED_NOTIFICATION,
+    ];
+    let old = json!({"kinds": kinds, "#p": [member_hex]});
+    let asks = json!({"kinds": kinds, "#p": [member_hex], "#t": ["system"]});
+
+    // The member's live global subscriptions: one as clients send today, one
+    // that asks for system notices.
+    let conn_id = Uuid::new_v4();
+    let (tx, mut rx) = tokio::sync::mpsc::channel(32);
+    f.state.conn_manager.register(
+        conn_id,
+        tx,
+        tokio::sync::mpsc::channel(4).0,
+        tokio::sync::mpsc::channel(1).0,
+        None,
+        tokio_util::sync::CancellationToken::new(),
+        f.tenant.community(),
+        Arc::new(std::sync::atomic::AtomicU8::new(0)),
+        Arc::new(tokio::sync::Mutex::new(Default::default())),
+        3,
+        crate::state::CommunityConnectionControl::new(tokio_util::sync::CancellationToken::new()),
+    );
+    f.state
+        .conn_manager
+        .set_authenticated_pubkey(conn_id, member.public_key().to_bytes().to_vec());
+    for (sub, filter) in [("old", &old), ("asks", &asks)] {
+        f.state.sub_registry.register_scoped(
+            f.tenant.community(),
+            conn_id,
+            sub.into(),
+            vec![serde_json::from_value(filter.clone()).expect("filter")],
+            None,
+        );
+    }
 
     let system = create_channel(&f.state, &f.tenant, &owner, &[&["channel_type", "system"]]).await;
     let ordinary = create_channel(&f.state, &f.tenant, &owner, &[]).await;
@@ -452,36 +495,186 @@ async fn system_channels_send_no_membership_notifications() {
         )
         .await;
     }
-    // Notifications are written after the reply; give the task a moment.
-    let mut notified = Vec::new();
-    for _ in 0..50 {
-        notified = f
-            .state
-            .db
-            .query_events(&EventQuery {
-                kinds: Some(vec![buzz_core::kind::KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION as i32]),
-                p_tag_hex: Some(member_hex.clone()),
-                ..EventQuery::for_community(f.tenant.community())
-            })
+    publish(
+        &f,
+        &owner,
+        9001,
+        "",
+        &[&["h", &system.to_string()], &["p", &member_hex]],
+    )
+    .await;
+
+    // Notifications are sent after the reply; collect the three frames.
+    let mut live = Vec::new();
+    let mut ids = std::collections::HashMap::new();
+    while live.len() < 3 {
+        let frame = tokio::time::timeout(std::time::Duration::from_secs(5), rx.recv())
             .await
-            .expect("query notifications")
-            .into_iter()
-            .map(|stored| {
-                stored
-                    .event
-                    .tags
-                    .iter()
-                    .find(|tag| tag.as_slice().first().map(String::as_str) == Some("h"))
-                    .and_then(|tag| tag.as_slice().get(1).cloned())
-                    .expect("h tag")
-            })
-            .collect::<Vec<_>>();
-        if !notified.is_empty() {
+            .unwrap_or_else(|_| panic!("notices so far: {live:?}"))
+            .expect("connection open");
+        let axum::extract::ws::Message::Text(text) = frame else {
+            continue;
+        };
+        let message: Value = serde_json::from_str(&text).expect("relay frame");
+        if message[0] != "EVENT" {
+            continue;
+        }
+        let event: nostr::Event = serde_json::from_value(message[2].clone()).expect("event");
+        assert_eq!(
+            event.pubkey,
+            f.state.relay_keypair.public_key(),
+            "relay-signed"
+        );
+        let h = event
+            .tags
+            .iter()
+            .find(|tag| tag.as_slice().first().map(String::as_str) == Some("h"))
+            .and_then(|tag| tag.as_slice().get(1).cloned())
+            .expect("h tag");
+        let kind = u32::from(event.kind.as_u16());
+        ids.insert((kind, h.clone()), event.id.to_hex());
+        live.push((message[1].as_str().expect("sub id").to_owned(), kind, h));
+    }
+    assert!(
+        tokio::time::timeout(std::time::Duration::from_millis(200), rx.recv())
+            .await
+            .is_err(),
+        "no fourth notice"
+    );
+    assert_eq!(
+        sorted(live),
+        sorted(vec![
+            (
+                "asks".into(),
+                KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION,
+                system.to_string()
+            ),
+            (
+                "asks".into(),
+                KIND_MEMBER_REMOVED_NOTIFICATION,
+                system.to_string()
+            ),
+            (
+                "old".into(),
+                KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION,
+                ordinary.to_string()
+            ),
+        ])
+    );
+    let ordinary_added = ids[&(KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION, ordinary.to_string())].clone();
+    let system_notices = sorted(vec![
+        ids[&(KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION, system.to_string())].clone(),
+        ids[&(KIND_MEMBER_REMOVED_NOTIFICATION, system.to_string())].clone(),
+    ]);
+
+    // History: the system notices are stored, and only the asking filter
+    // reads them.
+    assert_eq!(
+        req(&f, &member, old.clone()).await,
+        std::slice::from_ref(&ordinary_added)
+    );
+    assert_eq!(count(&f, &member, old.clone()).await, 1);
+    assert_eq!(
+        bridge_ids(bridge(&f, &member, "/query", json!([old])).await),
+        std::slice::from_ref(&ordinary_added)
+    );
+    assert_eq!(
+        bridge_count(bridge(&f, &member, "/count", json!([old])).await),
+        1
+    );
+    assert_eq!(sorted(req(&f, &member, asks.clone()).await), system_notices);
+    assert_eq!(count(&f, &member, asks.clone()).await, 2);
+    assert_eq!(
+        sorted(bridge_ids(
+            bridge(&f, &member, "/query", json!([asks])).await
+        )),
+        system_notices
+    );
+    // Replay with `since` works for the asking filter.
+    let mut since = asks.clone();
+    since["since"] = json!(0);
+    assert_eq!(sorted(req(&f, &member, since).await), system_notices);
+}
+
+/// The database hides system notices unless the query asks, so a read path
+/// that builds its own `EventQuery` and forgets the rule still hides them.
+/// Mutation: drop `push_system_notice_exclusion` → RED.
+#[tokio::test]
+#[ignore = "requires Postgres and Redis"]
+async fn the_database_hides_system_notices_by_default() {
+    use buzz_core::kind::KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION;
+    let f = fixture().await;
+    let owner = Keys::generate();
+    let member = Keys::generate();
+    let member_hex = member.public_key().to_hex();
+    let system = create_channel(&f.state, &f.tenant, &owner, &[&["channel_type", "system"]]).await;
+    let ordinary = create_channel(&f.state, &f.tenant, &owner, &[]).await;
+    for channel in [system, ordinary] {
+        publish(
+            &f,
+            &owner,
+            9000,
+            "",
+            &[&["h", &channel.to_string()], &["p", &member_hex]],
+        )
+        .await;
+    }
+    // Kindless, but global only: the notices are the only global events
+    // that mention the member.
+    let base = EventQuery {
+        p_tag_hex: Some(member_hex.clone()),
+        global_only: true,
+        ..EventQuery::for_community(f.tenant.community())
+    };
+    let channels_of = |events: Vec<buzz_core::StoredEvent>| {
+        sorted(
+            events
+                .into_iter()
+                .map(|stored| {
+                    stored
+                        .event
+                        .tags
+                        .iter()
+                        .find(|tag| tag.as_slice().first().map(String::as_str) == Some("h"))
+                        .and_then(|tag| tag.as_slice().get(1).cloned())
+                        .expect("h tag")
+                })
+                .collect(),
+        )
+    };
+    // Notifications are written after the reply; wait for both.
+    let mut all = Vec::new();
+    for _ in 0..50 {
+        all = channels_of(
+            f.state
+                .db
+                .query_events(&EventQuery {
+                    include_system_notices: true,
+                    ..base.clone()
+                })
+                .await
+                .expect("query"),
+        );
+        if all.len() == 2 {
             break;
         }
         tokio::time::sleep(std::time::Duration::from_millis(20)).await;
     }
-    assert_eq!(sorted(notified), vec![ordinary.to_string()]);
+    assert_eq!(all, sorted(vec![system.to_string(), ordinary.to_string()]));
+
+    for query in [
+        base.clone(),
+        EventQuery {
+            kinds: Some(vec![KIND_MEMBER_ADDED_NOTIFICATION as i32]),
+            ..base.clone()
+        },
+    ] {
+        assert_eq!(
+            channels_of(f.state.db.query_events(&query).await.expect("query")),
+            [ordinary.to_string()]
+        );
+        assert_eq!(f.state.db.count_events(&query).await.expect("count"), 1);
+    }
 }
 
 /// A group-state filter with `#t:["system"]` or any `#P` finds the system
diff --git a/docs/nips/NIP-CL.md b/docs/nips/NIP-CL.md
index 662e88fa94..3cfb2260ac 100644
--- a/docs/nips/NIP-CL.md
+++ b/docs/nips/NIP-CL.md
@@ -186,9 +186,34 @@ a system channel stays an ordinary NIP-29 group.
 The relay decides this for each filter. A filter that names a system channel
 does not add it to another filter in the same request.
 
-The relay MUST NOT send push notifications or kind:44100/44101 membership
-notifications for system channels. A client that received one would show the
-channel.
+The relay MUST NOT send push notifications for system channels.
+
+### Membership notices for system channels
+
+When a member is added to or removed from a system channel, the relay sends
+the usual kind:44100 or kind:44101 notice with one more tag,
+`["t", "system"]`. It stores the notice like any other 44100/44101.
+
+A client that does not know system channels would show the channel from such
+a notice. So the relay MUST return a notice with `["t", "system"]` only to a
+filter whose `#t` has the value `system`. This applies on every path: REQ
+history, live delivery, COUNT, and any relay-specific query API. Existing
+clients do not send `#t` on these kinds, so they see no change.
+
+A client that knows system channels sends one more filter:
+
+```json
+{"kinds": [44100, 44101], "#p": ["<me>"], "#t": ["system"]}
+```
+
+The `#p` rule for 44100/44101 still applies: it must be the reader's own
+pubkey. The tag comes from the channel type when the relay sends the notice.
+
+Because the notices are stored, a client that reconnects can set `since` to
+the newest notice it has seen. One subscription then returns the notices it
+missed and the new ones, so no change falls between a read and a
+subscription. A notice is a hint: the channel's group-state events decide
+membership.
 
 ### Asking for system channels